Comments on: Sabellius http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28 Theological insights and humble heresy hunting. (AKA "Heretic Slapping With Pastor Klages") Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:34:46 +0900 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: johnny oatts http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-8390 johnny oatts Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:37:56 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-8390 Deleted by administrator on the basis of this phrase: "WE CAN KNOW THAT THE TRINITY IS SATANIC AND MEN WHO ARE SATANS MINISTERS PREACH IT" I do not appreciate being called a minister of Satan. Please find another blog. Deleted by administrator on the basis of this phrase: “WE CAN KNOW THAT THE TRINITY IS SATANIC AND MEN WHO ARE SATANS MINISTERS PREACH IT”

I do not appreciate being called a minister of Satan. Please find another blog.

]]> By: Rev. Alex Klages http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-296 Rev. Alex Klages Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:05:58 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-296 There's a certain amount of confusion with regards to modalism, to be sure. And yes, at times many of what are now regarded as heresies were main-stream. Still, the weakness of modalism has always struck me as two-fold. How do you explain the scene at Jesus' baptism where all three persons seem to be present and acting independently? and Just who was Jesus praying to if He were the mode of God in that day? There’s a certain amount of confusion with regards to modalism, to be sure. And yes, at times many of what are now regarded as heresies were main-stream. Still, the weakness of modalism has always struck me as two-fold. How do you explain the scene at Jesus’ baptism where all three persons seem to be present and acting independently? and Just who was Jesus praying to if He were the mode of God in that day?

]]> By: johnny oatts http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-294 johnny oatts Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:16:37 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-294 Its very said to say bad things about what people really dont study and search out. what i mean is the doctrine of the trinity, in St. Matt. 28:18 dismisses any such teaching of a trinity. come on lets us be real and such the bible as it is written and not just follow a bunch of antichrist. Satan even knows that thier is not a trinity but men are so ignorant of God's word. Jesus is the only God there is, for he is Father,Son,Holy Ghost in Modes only God is not a freak with three heads. The Book of Acts Gives us the history of the Apostles under the leadership of the Holy Ghost. No where in Acts did any one Baptize in the trinity titles only in Jesus name because they knew who Jesus was and none of them use the titles Father,Son, and Holy Ghost. Read and Obey Acts 2:38 God bless:smile: Its very said to say bad things about what people really dont study and search out. what i mean is the doctrine of the trinity, in St. Matt. 28:18 dismisses any such teaching of a trinity. come on lets us be real and such the bible as it is written and not just follow a bunch of antichrist. Satan even knows that thier is not a trinity but men are so ignorant of God’s word. Jesus is the only God there is, for he is Father,Son,Holy Ghost in Modes only God is not a freak with three heads. The Book of Acts Gives us the history of the Apostles under the leadership of the Holy Ghost. No where in Acts did any one Baptize in the trinity titles only in Jesus name because they knew who Jesus was and none of them use the titles Father,Son, and Holy Ghost. Read and Obey Acts 2:38 God bless:smile:

]]> By: Will http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-205 Will Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:27:55 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-205 Unfortunately, Sabellius has been completely misrepresented. A salient historical fact is that Sabellius was a part of the Roman church when it was predeominately "modalistic monarchian" (as later scholars have "dubbed" the doctrine). The Roman bishops (Victor, Zephyrinus, Callistus) were all of the same belief concerning the Godhead as Sabellius. Modalistic monarchian does not deny the humanity of Christ, and correctly exalts His divinity. It teaches no "committee" of "divine persons" in heaven, but merely emphasizes that the incarnation was God the Father manifest in the flesh as Jesus Christ. No "trinity". Unfortunately, Sabellius has been completely misrepresented. A salient historical fact is that Sabellius was a part of the Roman church when it was predeominately “modalistic monarchian” (as later scholars have “dubbed” the doctrine). The Roman bishops (Victor, Zephyrinus, Callistus) were all of the same belief concerning the Godhead as Sabellius. Modalistic monarchian does not deny the humanity of Christ, and correctly exalts His divinity. It teaches no “committee” of “divine persons” in heaven, but merely emphasizes that the incarnation was God the Father manifest in the flesh as Jesus Christ. No “trinity”.

]]> By: Rev. Alex Klages http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-83 Rev. Alex Klages Fri, 23 Sep 2005 13:24:09 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-83 Mom, Don't stress over possible misreadings of comments on this blog. Your original comment seemed perfectly clear to me. Take care and talk to you soon! -the Canuck son-in-law Mom,
Don’t stress over possible misreadings of comments on this blog. Your original comment seemed perfectly clear to me.
Take care and talk to you soon!
-the Canuck son-in-law

]]> By: Marlene http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-82 Marlene Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:51:04 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-82 The more I read over my comment, the more I think someone would get the impression that I don't believe in the Trinity.:shock: I was merely trying to show that I don't take to modalism. My belief is God in three persons, not modes or auras and that the Holy Spirit is a person, not an it or a phantom. :sad:Hope that clears things up a bit.:smile: The more I read over my comment, the more I think someone would get the impression that I don’t believe in the Trinity.:shock: I was merely trying to show that I don’t take to modalism. My belief is God in three persons, not modes or auras and that the Holy Spirit is a person, not an it or a phantom. :sad: Hope that clears things up a bit.:smile:

]]> By: Tracey K http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-81 Tracey K Wed, 21 Sep 2005 20:19:54 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-81 At a recent meeting we were discussing the various positions on our EDLYA board. I think this web site's affecting me, 'cause I said that we had a Pastoral advisor to help us stay away from heresy. Keep up these great, thought-provoking posts! At a recent meeting we were discussing the various positions on our EDLYA board. I think this web site’s affecting me, ’cause I said that we had a Pastoral advisor to help us stay away from heresy.

Keep up these great, thought-provoking posts!

]]> By: Webcritter http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-80 Webcritter Mon, 19 Sep 2005 22:04:16 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-80 Today's Issues, Etc. from KFUO dealt in part with T.D. Jakes. Pastor Wilken was decidedly unenthusiastic about Rev. Jakes' theology. - Webcritter Today’s Issues, Etc. from KFUO dealt in part with T.D. Jakes. Pastor Wilken was decidedly unenthusiastic about Rev. Jakes’ theology.

- Webcritter

]]> By: Marlene http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-79 Marlene Sat, 17 Sep 2005 02:11:44 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-79 Interesting thoughts here. In our Wednesday night Bible study of The Holy Spirit, He, not it (as The Holy Spirit) was stressed as the third "person" of the Trinity. For instance, Jesus saying he'll send another comforter(not God the father, not Himself, but The Holy Spirit. :shock:We also learned about modalism.(the heresy of it) Jakes was also mentioned as a teacher of this belief.:???: How sad that so many people are being deceived into believing this fallacy.:cry: :smile:Mom Interesting thoughts here. In our Wednesday night Bible study of The Holy Spirit, He, not it (as The Holy Spirit) was stressed as the third “person” of the Trinity. For instance, Jesus saying he’ll send another comforter(not God the father, not Himself, but The Holy Spirit. :shock: We also learned about modalism.(the heresy of it) Jakes was also mentioned as a teacher of this belief.:???: How sad that so many people are being deceived into believing this fallacy.:cry:

:smile: Mom

]]> By: John H http://kellyklages.com/qaz1/wordpress/?p=28&cpage=1#comment-78 John H Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:52:07 +0000 http://qaz1.bannerland.org/wordpress/?p=28#comment-78 Nice graphic at the top - the new site looks pretty good. As for TD Jakes, I confess that (being a very ungenerous sort of soul :evil:) it was sufficient to be told he's a member of the "Higher Ground Always Abounding Assemblies". A name like that is <i>never</i> good news. :wink: Oh, that and being told he was "ordained a Bishop" at Greater Emmanuel Apostolic Church. I know as a good Lutheran I shouldn't be interested in the whole bishop thing anyway, but really, there are bishops and there are bishops, y'know? Gosh, I <i>am</i> snarky tonight, aren't I...? Nice graphic at the top – the new site looks pretty good.

As for TD Jakes, I confess that (being a very ungenerous sort of soul :evil: ) it was sufficient to be told he’s a member of the “Higher Ground Always Abounding Assemblies”. A name like that is never good news. :wink:

Oh, that and being told he was “ordained a Bishop” at Greater Emmanuel Apostolic Church. I know as a good Lutheran I shouldn’t be interested in the whole bishop thing anyway, but really, there are bishops and there are bishops, y’know?

Gosh, I am snarky tonight, aren’t I…?

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